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101. Chookmustard at 10:48 AM on 13 September, 2012
     The guy who jumps to mind immediately is poor old Tim Flannery here in Oz. he gets lampooned and derided and accused of lying and inflating information. Papers,radio,Internet and tv all have a go at him, by the usual suspects (shock jocks, columnists etc). I don't get labelled in any particular way. My GF thinks CC is not a problem but that's probably because she likes to disagree with me.
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102. vrooomie at 12:45 PM on 13 September, 2012
     Dunkerson@96...this one is *your* fault...;) "Dark is *plant* food."
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103. John Hartz at 12:57 PM on 13 September, 2012
     @ Bob Loblaw #92: It took me a while. Brilliant! PS - For future reference, please bracket suggested balloon text in quotation marks.
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104. Bob Loblaw at 15:22 PM on 13 September, 2012
     John Hartz @ 103: ...but if I put it in quotes, then I'd be implying that I'm a denier admitting I'm in denial, which wouldn't work.... and calling myself a denier might violate the comments policy...
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     Moderator Response: [DB] Only if used in a self-pejorative sense.
105. John Hartz at 23:32 PM on 13 September, 2012
     @Bob Loblaw #104: Like the Wattsonians, you excell at tying yourself up in a Gordian knot. Where's Alexander the Great when we need him?
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106. Bob Loblaw at 01:07 AM on 14 September, 2012
     John: As long as I'm role-playing a "climate skeptic", it behooves me to maintain a fairly large degree of self-inconsistency....
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107. John Hartz at 01:45 AM on 14 September, 2012
     One more before I take the dogs out for their long walk... Dang it all, I told Watts not to turn off the lights when he left.
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108. vrooomie at 01:55 AM on 14 September, 2012
     John, you are *clearly* better at this than I: however, I have a spark of inspiration, which I'll lay upon you, then you can run with it.... Something along the lines of, 'How many Watts does it take to power a light bulb....' The rest is up to you!
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109. Composer99 at 02:12 AM on 14 September, 2012
     With regards to being labelled alarmist, in order for the labelling to be accurate, the framing around it must also be accurate (that is, the person labelled as an 'alarmist' must actually be making unwarranted claims about the dangers of global warming). When the full body of evidence is examined, as well as the positions of the vast majority of scientific societies (but also of third parties such as reinsurers or, say, the branches of the US military), it is IMO unequivocally clear that the circumstances surrounding global warming are genuinely alarming. As such, as long as someone being labelled 'alarmist' is making their case with reference to the scientific evidence, it is IMO best to reject the label and the framing that goes on with it.
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110. John Hartz at 02:47 AM on 14 September, 2012
     @Composer #99: Thanks for articulating your perspective. If we were to openly embrace and proudly wear the alarmist mantle, do you think we could diminish the ability of the Wattsonians to use the word pejoratively?
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111. John Hartz at 02:50 AM on 14 September, 2012
     Post dog walk... "Drats! We simply have to stop using the dimmist light bulb in the box."
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112. Composer99 at 05:40 AM on 14 September, 2012
     John Hartz @110: I am not up to speed on sociological literature relating to pejoratives, slurs, and the reclamation thereof, so the best I can say is that I do not know whether an attempt to reclaim 'alarmist' will diminish its rhetorical power when used as a pejorative by others.
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113. M Tucker at 05:43 AM on 15 September, 2012
     If you run from the label “alarmist” you undermine all your arguments for immediate action. You might reply by saying, “I am alarmed and you should be too!” Or “A great many respected climate scientists are alarmed as well.” Or “If you are not alarmed you just have not been paying attention.” Or “Churchill was called an alarmist too” Or “I am alarmed about the disaster we bequeath to our children and grandchildren.” You all have been doing such a fine job with the toon balloons that I’m sure you can do better than I have with rejoinders.
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114. bf at 12:26 PM on 15 September, 2012
     Q: How many? A: None! It's arrogant to think that mankind can possibly affect the level of illumination in a room.
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