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1. WAG at 14:26 PM on 16 July, 2010
   Links seem to be broken - they all take me to http://www.skepticalscience.com/\
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2. WAG at 14:26 PM on 16 July, 2010
   nevermind - working now
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   Response: Realised the links were broken a few seconds after I clicked the "Send to Mailing List" button, dangit!
3. mothincarnate at 14:30 PM on 16 July, 2010
   Chris is amazing for his contradictions, isn't he? At least modern science doesn't work under Moncktonian logic!
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4. Cornelius Breadbasket at 16:10 PM on 16 July, 2010
   Well done Dan - that makes it worth getting a facebook account!
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5. villabolo at 16:39 PM on 16 July, 2010
   Good work. But is that Prawn in the illustration overcooked? Also, perhaps you can add some audio and animation to make it talk in a Mid-Western accent. ;-)
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6. tobyjoyce at 17:04 PM on 16 July, 2010
   Personally, I am not comfortable with the "Prawn" allusion. Monckton's appearance is supposed to have something to do with him having Grave's Disease. Making fun of an opponent's disability should be beyond the pale of acceptable discourse. Don Moutal should have gone with "Sitck to the facts, ma'am, stick to the facts".
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   Response: The prawn allusion is not making fun of Monckton. On the contrary, this is a reference to Monckton likening Abraham to an overcooked prawn. I completely agree - making fun of a person's personal appearance is completely inappropriate in what should be a grown-up discourse. It's particularly ironic when you consider Monckton was accusing Abraham of making an ad hominem attack in the same sentence.
7. Stu at 18:50 PM on 16 July, 2010
   "Monckton's appearance is supposed to have something to do with him having Grave's Disease" I thought I'd read that Monckton's miracle AIDS cure also cured Grave's disease... not sure where I picked that up!
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8. tobyjoyce at 19:12 PM on 16 July, 2010
   Re: Prawngate Ok, he started it. I would still have preferred something a bit less flippant. This will not stop me recording my support for John Abraham.
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9. lord_sidcup at 19:49 PM on 16 July, 2010
   John, over at Deltoid occassional poster to this site 'Passing Wind' is claiming that: "At least 5 of Abraham's guest posts at skepticalsciece.com are no longer listed on the site. They have been redacted from the thread index and the thread archive." Can you clarify please?
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10. lord_sidcup at 19:51 PM on 16 July, 2010
    Sorry, hyperlink fail: Passing Wind's comment
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11. JMurphy at 21:00 PM on 16 July, 2010
    lord_sidcup, I must admit that I cannot remember how many times Abraham has posted on this site (hopefully someone else will be able to reveal more) but I have found this : Abraham reply to Monckton
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12. lord_sidcup at 21:47 PM on 16 July, 2010
    JMurphy. I think there were/are 6 altogether and you can still access them if you know the URL, but only the 1 you link to appears in the archive index. I'm sure there is a simple explanation and John will clarify when he is around.
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13. CBDunkerson at 22:22 PM on 16 July, 2010
    Tobyjoyce, when you say, "Ok, he [Monckton] started it", that seems to imply that someone else has responded in kind. Which again, is not the case. Monckton said Abraham looked like an "overcooked prawn"... not vice versa. The 'Prawngate' name is meant to mock Monckton's diatribe against 'ad hominem' argumentation... in the same sentence where he expresses relief at being "spared his [Abraham's] face". Such hypocrisy SHOULD be mocked. Flippant? Yes, but frankly Monckton's ravings don't merit a serious response. If he can't behave like a grownup the best course is to laugh him off and move on.
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14. tobyjoyce at 22:46 PM on 16 July, 2010
    CBDunkerson, It is a matter of opinion. I still think leaving all the flippancy and pique on the other side would establish much more effectively the difference between the protagonists. It is true that Watts' site (to take one example) has descended into la-la land, with references to cockroaches and the impending doom of a Communist takeover ... all because someone called out one of their idols!!
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15. DarkSkywise at 22:51 PM on 16 July, 2010
    JM #11 & Lord S (you don't happen to be a honorary member of the House of Lords, do you?) ;) #12: I found 5 with Google from june 2 to june 11 (the "More results from"... link is my friend), including the one you mentioned, all in full working order. I assume John is implementing the "nofollow"-thing or something alike, so the WUWTF-crew will have a slightly harder time tracking them, and we will have everything back in no time.
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16. Stu at 23:00 PM on 16 July, 2010
    Yeah it's not that they were actually missing, DarkSkywise, but they don't show up in the list of latest posts. I expect they will reappear at some point.
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17. DarkSkywise at 00:04 AM on 17 July, 2010
    Anymoo, I've joined Facebook (I had planned not to, being a member of far too many sites already), so I could become a supporting member of Prawngate. On the plus side, having just made such a Large Personal Sacrifice (oh dear, there are the first friendship requests pouring in already... what is this? an ambush? shoo!), it'll probably be Extremely Appreciated, which is nice. :)
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18. tobyjoyce at 01:01 AM on 17 July, 2010
    Hare are 3 of Profesor Abraham's posts which did not come up with the Search command .. I used Google. Not sure what happened to Part I. Part II Part II ,a href="http://www.skepticalscience.com/Monckton-Chronicles-Part-IV-Medieval-Warm-Period.html"> Part III
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19. tobyjoyce at 01:03 AM on 17 July, 2010
    Got some of the URLs tangled above. However, the point is made - these have not been removed. Passing Wind just could not find them, but they are difficult to find.
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20. JMurphy at 01:19 AM on 17 July, 2010
    tobyjoyce, Part I is accessible from Part II, and is here : Part I
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21. DarkSkywise at 01:32 AM on 17 July, 2010
    Since everybody is posting urls anyway, I might as well do the full versions: june 2: Abraham shows Monckton wrong on Arctic sea ice june 4: Monckton Chronicles Part II: Here Comes the Sun june 6: Abraham reply to Monckton june 8: Monckton Chronicles Part III: Acid Reflux june 11: Monckton Chronicles Part IV: Medieval Warm Period (the preview worked, hope the submit works too!)
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22. quokka at 02:19 AM on 17 July, 2010
    How well the University of St Thomas has acted should be applauded. Eli Rabett has published their correspondence here: A humble suggestion - support the University of St. Thomas
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23. Ned at 02:23 AM on 17 July, 2010
    Alternatively, you can just type "Abraham" in the Search box in the upper left corner of the page, and they all show up. I use that search box all the time. It's a handy way of finding things when you want to search only the posts and not the comments (a google search for a commonly used term would bring up many threads in which that term might not have been used in the top post). For example, using John's search box at upper left, a search for "icesat" shows five posts. A google search for "icesat site:skepticalscience.com" shows about 15, mostly people mentioning it in the comments. Of course sometimes you're looking for stuff in the comments, in which case google is the way to go.
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24. JMurphy at 02:57 AM on 17 July, 2010
    Ned, how come when I type in 'Abraham' (without the quote marks, or whatever they're called), I only get : Abraham reply to Monckton Facebook page to support John Abraham Monckton tries to censor John Abraham Podcasts interviews and Monckton bashing
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25. DarkSkywise at 03:04 AM on 17 July, 2010
    Alternatively, you can just type "Abraham" in the Search box in the upper left corner of the page, and they all show up. Oh yes, that search box. (Speaking about hiding in plain sight.) :D But it's still a nice example of different researchers using different means and data sets, and all arriving at the same conclusion (i.e. "John Abraham's posts are real and do exist"), just like AGW.
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26. Ned at 03:34 AM on 17 July, 2010
    JMurphy, you're right ... it looks like there's something wrong with the way the Search box is interacting with the database. Until John gets this straightened out, I guess Googling Abraham site:skepticalscience.com is the way to go. DarkSkywise, I'd say this is a nice illustration of how different methods applied to the same data set (the database of posts) can give inconsistent results even when nobody is deliberately tampering with the data!
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27. DarkSkywise at 03:46 AM on 17 July, 2010
    That too, yes. :)
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28. Alexandre at 04:18 AM on 17 July, 2010
    quokka #22 Great post at Eli Rabett's. Really worth a read. Thanks.
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29. Philippe Chantreau at 16:24 PM on 18 July, 2010
    The only thing that Monckton is "artful" in is the grotesque. The buffoon has received all the attention he deserved and should get no more, really.
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